I doubt that these fictional characters have any relations other than maybe being created by the same creator.

On a more improtant note:
Is there anything we can do to stop or slow down that madness? I have the smell of some books burning already in my nose and I really don't like it.

As opposed to murder, stealing, slavery, genocide, and plenty more.. that you can do in a lot of games, that nobody ever considered immoral or offensive.

Personally I find peoples who want to censor fiction a lot more disgusting and offensive than any weird perverted kink that can be found in even the most extreme of those porn games.

I'm getting an anti-censorship vibe from replies to my post.

Let me respond in the extreme by saying that a game that allows you to recreate Auschwitz is not ok.

So where do you draw the line?

There is a line. Just because you believe that games should not be censored - yes they should be if they cross the line.

And I hate to use Auschwitz as the example here because of the Palestinian genocide but there are red lines (that used to be enforced by national legislation and still are depending on the country)

I promise you that in the 90s or 00s these incest games would not have been sold at GameStop or ElectronicsBoutique or any similar game shop.

So you'd be happy to announce to your friends that you support the continuation of games which primarily deal with incestuous relations with close family members.

I admire your conviction if that is indeed the case.

(I'm not talking about games which allow incest etc.) I'm talking about games which use incest as a selling point.

Yes, I would: and I don't even play them.

Yeah strange to get anti-censorship vibes from a thread about censorship...

Again : difference between reality and fiction.

Auschwitz and the Shoah is something that happened in reality and caused million of real peoples death so it is understandable that some limits and "precaution" needs to be followed if you want to make a story / game / movie about that.

But if it is not linked to real events then I would say there should be no line nor limit; For example in Frostpunk you can send children to work until they die of cold or hunger and then use their corpses either as organ banks, fertilizer or food, we have another game where the whole gameplay is you trading illegally obtained organs on the black market, several games were you can play as a ruthless dictator, commit war crimes, genocides or even destroy entire civilization.

So having a totally fictional character having sex with / torturing / dismembering / eating / killing others totally fictional characters, regardless if in this totally fictional setting they are related or not, clones or whatever, whenever it is in a book. movie or game I don't see any problem with that.

The only limit is mine about what I enjoy, don't enjoy or find disgusting; but even if I find something absolutely repulsive it doesn't mean that it should be censored or shouldn't exists.

Again it has absolutely nothing to do with whenever I enjoy those games, whenever I find them disgusting or not :

I do not want games to be censored, period (Especially not by credit card companies after being pressured by a bunch of brain dead online Karens). Whenever the games in question are Expedition 33 / Elden Ring level of quality or some crappy asset flip porn games is totally irrelevant.

not videogame, but i remembered an old Fighting Fantasy gamebook where you start out as a 6 year old boy or something and you can die in many gruesome ways. "Crimson Tides" or something.

That game is just one of their targets. Along many others. Like all anime without exception (because it's depictions of children of course), trying to ban shops selling skirts because women just won't stop wearing them or campaigning against..... lip gloss.

These are actual insane people. The CEO also calls herself a "bioethic advisor". :P

I feel like it's to to bring up this gem of a meme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mVfv3b-4E

You're getting those vibes correctly then.

And there's no line for fiction, so nothing to draw. So there damn well should not be censorship for any work of fiction.

Or, if you want, that's the line, fiction. You know, that "Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental" disclaimer. Recreating Auschwitz, from your example, would fail that test, so it may be questionable (though, confined to a virtual environment, I wouldn't support censoring that either, possibly with the exception of specific depictions of any remaining survivors who didn't give an explicit approval). But anything that's entirely a construct of someone's mind, without specific and clearly identifiable real persons or events, is completely fair game, no matter how deranged it may be considered.

Anything else is... I mean, if there is a line, it's as you say, a question of where to draw it, and everyone has a different idea about that.

Indeed!

You hit the nail on the head.

Just wanted to add that I totally agree with what Gersen and Cavalary said here.
It does not matter at all what the game is about as long as it is a game and as long as there is no REAL person is in any type or form harmed in making or playing it. I would not play a "kill the cats" simulator game ... but I would also not want to ban it. Let people DECIDE what they want to PLAY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na2QdKpoY9k

By comparison to the more unhinged content that exists. Im sure gog has nothing to worry about.

Though, I really would like gog to gather both the tame and the unhinged content, if not just for the lulz :)

It probably wont happen, mainly due to various differences between the laws of nations. Content from Japan and the US for example. I dont know if Polish law allows a "anything goes, so long as it is 100% fiction". USA and Japan have it, but not sure of other nations.

Which is ironic the americans scream FREEDOM!! All while taking it away from others.

I am REALLY a big cat fan ... but I could not help but to laugh about this immediately. Thanks for the link - hillarious.

Hey, I like cats too, but this silly video exemplifies the point, right? It's not real. Let even horrible things be created as works of fictions, and allow them to be sold. If it's so abhorrent that almost no one wants to purchase it, it will stay in the realm of relative obscurity forever and barely receive any attention.
Sensible people can appreciate even unsavoury things and are able to draw the appropriate distinction between what is permissible and what is not; what must remain a thought experiment only. So let people read, watch, or play what they wish when it is in the privacy of their own home. Those who are incapable of that.. well that is a different matter entirely, and a whole other political argument that is best not to get into here; but when it actually affects real people and enters public life, then we can consider what rebukes and reprimands are appropriate.

GOG can curate their library however they see fit, but I would really rather they not get bullied into submission by overreaching payment processors. They should just be facilitating the exchanging of money between hands, and nothing more. Adult games have just as much a right to exist as any other game.

Not sure any noticed. Steaming Pile has a gift card system. Nothing to associate what games are purchased after a physical card is bought. My point? The company sells these cards in brick and mortar stores everywhere in the US. The delisted games should have been kept on the site and the option to borrow them only funneled to use store credit(gift credit).

Problem solved.

Gog however, still has no reason to do anything at all, since the games are pretty tame.

GOG is like Playboy and the other guy is like hardcore. Big difference.

....I guess most females wouldnt know what that means? Take a look at the film Mrs Henderson Presents and then go look up hardcore content. Big difference.