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Timboli: But in what context?
The context quite literally does not matter here. Directly from the campaign of the mentioned group:
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Rape and incest games:

- Reinforce male sexual entitlement to women and children's bodies
- Put women and girls at risk
- Fuel attitudes that perpetuate real crimes of violence against women
- Destroy empathy
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It is an absolute statement. Context is something they don't operate with. There is of course zero evidence to any of those claims, but it is enough to initiate their scare tactics.

So everything, the end goal is to ban everything. And they do not mean just actual porn, but all depictions of it, including games and anime where the only actors present are made completely of pixels.

Yes they are starting with what pretty much nobody will rally in defense for. But now that they got a foot in, the net WILL expand. Because that's what they make their money from.

It starts with depictions of incest, and ends with not being able to have romance scenes in games at all, unless the in-game characters first sign a consent agreement and say out loud "I consent" or some idiotic BS like that. Where will you draw the line? "Oh this is fine/degenerate to ban, go ahead, doesn't concern me". But don't complain then once it does start concerning you.

You really have to be trying hard to not see the slippery slope here. Though it's more of a free fall at this point. The gravity of what just happened really seems to be missing a lot of people. That little new statement in Steam's ToS quite literally changes everything and sets one of the most dangerous precedents of the recent years.

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People have now started digging into them and their history and it's way worse than anybody might have thought. These are raving radical activists of the greatest caliber. The proper term would probably be lunatics.
Post edited 23 hours ago by idbeholdME
If I had a few millions at hand I'd certainly try my luck with an unbiased/neutral online payment provider of my own, now seems like a good time for that to succeed and with a sufficient degree of market adoption, maybe even last.
Post edited Yesterday by JomVanFliet
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Catventurer: If you read the PC Gamer article that UnashamedWeeb posted (See Post #13), all of the games that were censored specifically involved incest porn. Nobody is going to take to the streets to protest the censorship of incest porn, so this is just an easy win and sets a precedent where the credit card companies get to decide for us what we are and are not allowed to play.
This has a name, usually called a "wedge". Ancient in fact. People would use a triangle bit of wood, placed in a small crack in giant rocks. Soak with water. The wood expands and splits a rock few could think capable of splitting.
Does anyone think having an "Adult" game sale right after Steam was forced to remove several adult games from sale.

Does GOG really think what happened to Steam won't happen to them?
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Wow, such AWESOME morals!!! Congratulations Visa on taking a moral stand.

Two human beings making love to each other... BAD AWFUL NO WE WON'T PAY!!

Two human beings with axes quite literally chopping each other to bits and pieces with body parts and blood flying everywhere? YEAH, NOW THAT FITS OUR MORAL STANDARDS. NO PROBLEM. PUSH ALL OF THAT IMAGERY ON THE POPULATION AS YOU WANT!

It shouldn't be surprising. The only way this house of cards works is when we're (the unwashed masses) divided and at each other throats (quite literally) and anything that might lead to more solidarity and good feelings toward each other (like say making love instead of war.. an old hippy saying) must be VERBOTEN!!!!! NEIN NEIN NEIN.

I honestly sometimes wonder how humanity made it this far and how effectively the few have maintained their grip over the many by keeping them divided. Every new technology that came along was promised as a way to loosen that grip, and every technology to come along so far has instead just been an even more effective way to propagandize us and keep us hating each other, most especially the internet and social media.
They don't want anybody fantasizing about taboo activities.

Real life crime against women they don't care about. They only want control of your mind.
Seeing as the post in the screenshot referenced in Marko's thread is from June 25, seems like GOG's at least stopping new releases for some time already...
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idbeholdME: ...

EDIT:
People have now started digging into them and their history and it's way worse than anybody might have thought. These are raving radical activists of the greatest caliber. The proper term would probably be lunatics.
oh well. more gamergate revival i guess.
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JomVanFliet: If I had a few millions at hand I'd certainly try my luck with an unbiased/neutral online payment provider of my own, now seems like a good time for that to succeed and with a sufficient degree of market adoption, maybe even last.
i really hope not. too many of them already. it's a hellscape of a clusterfrick.

more normie example: my local 7-11s have like 10+ payment systems, at least 3 of them seem to be from dubious communist-china online apps. you stick your own system/processor into that crazy mess of an "intergrated" IT system that corpos use, and you might just get your databases hacked or leaked to who knows where. the clerks at the 7-11s have a hard time just remembering all of them or how they work.
better to buy out one and change them from within if possible.

and then there's prepaid game cards which might be an even bigger mess.
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Paratech2008: Does anyone think having an "Adult" game sale right after Steam was forced to remove several adult games from sale.

Does GOG really think what happened to Steam won't happen to them?
how many adult games are on GOG now? and didn't GOG ban a certain taiwanese game for dubious whiny the poo reasons? it's not like the first time they bent the knee to political pressure, real political powers pushing them or not.
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OldFatGuy: Wow, such AWESOME morals!!! Congratulations Visa on taking a moral stand.

Two human beings making love to each other... BAD AWFUL NO WE WON'T PAY!!
Two related family members having sex. Yeah kind of awful.

I love how people are blaming religion (and specific religions to boot) when these games are almost by design immoral (and offensive to most people in non-specific situations)
I don't know what kind of game is detroit become human but this is their next step if real, heard at least a comment and now a pic i found on the other store

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwK2YusXsAAVYls.jpg

On the topic maybe gog will keep the games they have we can't know but maybe no new games that may have hentai in it will appear?

Or if they remove if only a little content like such is in it i wonder what happened to artistic value in a game.
Since Evenicle for example is more a game then just hentai.
Post edited 12 hours ago by Fonzer
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lupineshadow: Two related family members having sex. Yeah kind of awful.

I love how people are blaming religion (and specific religions to boot) when these games are almost by design immoral (and offensive to most people in non-specific situations)
A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones says hi
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Cavalary: A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones says hi
Yeah ASOIAF and incest games are one and the same.

They deserve the same cultural respect and the same protections. Sure.
Post edited 11 hours ago by lupineshadow
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OldFatGuy: Wow, such AWESOME morals!!! Congratulations Visa on taking a moral stand.

Two human beings making love to each other... BAD AWFUL NO WE WON'T PAY!!
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lupineshadow: Two related family members having sex. Yeah kind of awful.

I love how people are blaming religion (and specific religions to boot) when these games are almost by design immoral (and offensive to most people in non-specific situations)
I just played Bramble: The Mountain King yesterday. The protagonist is a 9 (or so) year old boy, I got hacked to bits by a cleaver during a boss fight, pretty awful too, yet no one seemingly cares.

Some games are pushing the limit, sure, but the usual sex is bad, violence is good is pretty tiring.


Plus, screw those CC companies for meddling with things that they have no business with.
Post edited 11 hours ago by NuffCatnip
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Cavalary: A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones says hi
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lupineshadow: Yeah ASOIAF and incest games are one and the same.

They deserve the same cultural respect and the same protections. Sure.
I don't think anyone here has less respect for porn games than me, but that's not really relevant. Once you've allowed Visa (and pressure groups like the one idbeholdME introduced us to) to decide you can't buy the latter, how will you stop them from deciding you can't buy the former?
Whats actually interesting is if you have no respect for porn games or porn in general.