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Valve just updated guidelines and removed some "adult" games after pressure from credit/debit card companies that they wanted certain types of games. Valve gave in and some games were removed from the store.

So will they go to GOG and make demands, and what games will be forced to be removed? on what content? Nudity, sexual content?"
As much as I don't care for porn games, this is some digested bovine fodder.
Was only a matter of time as they was going after Adult sites , then refusing to let go through payments for artists known for adult content they make, then refusing to allow people making adult games to do business with em

Now this ya I am not at all surprised .. I hate it but not surprised and odds are they'll do the same they did to Vavle/Steam to Gog.. it might also be why Adult games coming here has basically stated at best being unannounced

The worst part is that Visa and Mastercard basically has a stranglehold on the payment process and debit/credit card market with other methods not being that commonly accepted or listed as a means to payment so basically businesses .. especially small ones have to go with the whims of them as a result
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BanditKeith2: The worst part is that Visa and Mastercard basically has a stranglehold on the payment process and debit/credit card market with other methods not being that commonly accepted or listed as a means to payment so basically businesses .. especially small ones have to go with the whims of them as a result
Maybe in the US of A - in Europe it's likely more of a 50 50 or even a 40 60 ratio with alternative payment methods like PayPal being able to assert themselves.
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BanditKeith2: The worst part is that Visa and Mastercard basically has a stranglehold on the payment process and debit/credit card market with other methods not being that commonly accepted or listed as a means to payment so basically businesses .. especially small ones have to go with the whims of them as a result
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sqjzwpsr: Maybe in the US of A - in Europe it's likely more of a 50 50 or even a 40 60 ratio with alternative payment methods like PayPal being able to assert themselves.
USA atleast Paypal is behaving the same as Mastercard and Visa in fact I think they started the same crude in the USA prior to Mastercard and Visa could be wrong there. but ya USA atleast the fact is thier isn't many wildly used payment methods that aren't basically ''moral policing'' and such on what one can or can't spend on for several years now
Post edited 22 hours ago by BanditKeith2
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BanditKeith2: The worst part is that Visa and Mastercard basically has a stranglehold on the payment process and debit/credit card market with other methods not being that commonly accepted or listed as a means to payment so basically businesses .. especially small ones have to go with the whims of them as a result
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sqjzwpsr: Maybe in the US of A - in Europe it's likely more of a 50 50 or even a 40 60 ratio with alternative payment methods like PayPal being able to assert themselves.
Steam conformed to PayPal actually.

But whatever, all the main payment processors just work in tandem. It's an area that desperately needs decentralization. Because currently, Mastercard, Visa and PayPal hold way too much power. They are what needs to be regulated yesterday.

The ToS update is in the screen. Basically, payment processors can literally say to any business - "conform or die".

It is also another reason why retaining physical currency is vitally important, now more than ever. And why entities like the EU are pushing so hard towards removing it - total control.
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Post edited 21 hours ago by idbeholdME
I asked copilot if paysafecard is more accepting towards nsfw games and it said they are. But a group of people have sent a letter towards several payment processors against such games including paysafe limited games with certain themes for steam currently and also itch

Didn't know that paysafe limitied is different than paysafecard
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sqjzwpsr: Maybe in the US of A - in Europe it's likely more of a 50 50 or even a 40 60 ratio with alternative payment methods like PayPal being able to assert themselves.
I would love to see some citation on these claims. Over here, pretty much everybody and their dog owns a Visa or Master card, yet I never heard of anyone using freakin' PayPal (though, at least in Poland, miles better alternatives like Revolut or especially Blik are quite popular but surely still nowhere near the conventional debit/credit cards).
Post edited 9 hours ago by ssling
Would make my entire week if snail mail payments would be a thing again lol
What a load of crap this is...
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idbeholdME: But whatever, all the main payment processors just work in tandem. It's an area that desperately needs decentralization. Because currently, Mastercard, Visa and PayPal hold way too much power. They are what needs to be regulated yesterday.

The ToS update is in the screen. Basically, payment processors can literally say to any business - "conform or die".

It is also another reason why retaining physical currency is vitally important, now more than ever. And why entities like the EU are pushing so hard towards removing it - total control.
No kidding.
At least the ECB remains on "our" side, see
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/cash_strategy/cash_role/html/index.en.html or
https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/ecb-wants-tough-new-law-to-ban-no-cash-policies-at-shops-hospitals-and-museums/a1289026413.html
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idbeholdME: The ToS update is in the screen. Basically, payment processors can literally say to any business - "conform or die".
A one sided agreement that can be changed on a whim by the party with all the power, leaving the other side no recourse but to abandon their entire investment if the terms become unacceptable.

That sounds remarkably familiar.
Selling censored version of which you get the unrated DLC for free would be ideal, but not every games does that, a shame because that would protect them from the payment processorship
Post edited 14 hours ago by Memecchi
According to PC Gamer, seems like this mostly affected Steam games with 'sweet home Alabama" themes.

Contrary to my username, I don't play these games. But there are obvious repercussions here:

1) Any platforms that still sell these kinds of games and its players will eventually have to switch to alternative payment processors or crypto

2) Big payment processors have been exerting their market influence to censor and discourage certain content, which has been happening across many Japanese adult content websites very recently

3) Because of #2, I hope this doesn't create a slippery slope for other ideas
Everytime someone is telling me i should not buy something i will buy it one more time... so i hope they may give up at some point trying to patronizing me.
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UnashamedWeeb: According to PC Gamer, seems like this mostly affected Steam games with 'sweet home Alabama" themes.

Contrary to my username, I don't play these games. But there are obvious repercussions here:

1) Any platforms that still sell these kinds of games and its players will eventually have to switch to alternative payment processors or crypto

2) Big payment processors have been exerting their market influence to censor and discourage certain content, which has been happening across many Japanese adult content websites very recently

3) Because of #2, I hope this doesn't create a slippery slope for other ideas
Of course it will go down the oily slick slope. They've got both the money and the power while right now the industry standard is mindless, cancerous growth. You'd really expect these kind of people to still have some kind of ethical compass after being lathered in those levels of self-entitlement? It would be a miracle to have money-grubbing organizations say "we don't want more money and power" and actually mean it.