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BanditKeith2: I'd try to find another person as many on here in the past has disreguarded that person as well many bad things and likely will do the same here..
Sucks for them I guess.

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UsernameTaken2: This isn't economic, but religious.
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Breja: But why would Visa or Paypal care about that? If there's one thing you can usually rely on with these kind of corporations it's that they have no convictions either way other than profit. In D&D terms they would be Neutral Greedy.
Because activist groups fabricate a perceived threat to their profit.

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Post edited 5 hours ago by idbeholdME
Reminds me about the time when christian conservative groups tried to push the EU into "Child: Every person below 18 years" as a mandatory thing for all EU-countries.

The 2nd stepp failed.

Loud minorities with money behind try to push their personal moral down everyone throat
Again.
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tremere110: I noticed that Gog slowed the release of adult games significantly a while back, around the time the major payment processors started becoming uppity with adult sites. I thought at first Gog was becoming more prudish or that the adult games weren't selling but perhaps they're trying to avoid triggering the oligarchs. It's been annoying and I'm worried there will be a new Jack Thompson soon - it's not gonna stop at porn, it will spread to anything that those in power don't like.

The major payment processors need to be broken up, they have way too much influence and control.
We had a female version of him already namely anita sarkeesian she last I checked was taken serious and accepted into the western gaming industry unlike Jack Thompson.. But as things goes I can see a much worse new version come in
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Breja: But why would Visa or Paypal care about that? If there's one thing you can usually rely on with these kind of corporations it's that they have no convictions either way other than profit. In D&D terms they would be Neutral Greedy.
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idbeholdME: Because activist groups fabricate a perceived threat to their profit.
I just can't wrap my head around anyone taking that seriously. I mean, everyone knows sex sells so when your whole business is people paying for stuff, just any stuff, what credible threat to your profit greater than losing the "porn money" could you imagine?

I guess I just can't think stupid enough for this.
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idbeholdME: Because activist groups fabricate a perceived threat to their profit.
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Breja: I just can't wrap my head around anyone taking that seriously. I mean, everyone knows sex sells so when your whole business is people paying for stuff, just any stuff, what credible threat to your profit greater than losing the "porn money" could you imagine?

I guess I just can't think stupid enough for this.
The people running those companies aren't purely rational money-seeking machines, they have their own morals too. Even if they can make more money by ignoring the activists, they might prefer to go along with them. It's not stupidity, they just don't have the goals you think they do.
Is there any reaction from itch for now?
To my knowledge, GoG and Steam combined are small fries, when it comes to the number of porn games hosted, compared to Itch.
Itch.io has been demonetizing "certain types of porn games" for a while now.

EDIT: And yes, they kneel before payment providers. Attached screenshot from creator faq.
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clarry: Itch.io has been demonetizing "certain types of porn games" for a while now.

EDIT: And yes, they kneel before payment providers. Attached screenshot from creator faq.
When you see that if you sort by bestselling paid games you get pages and pages consisting almost entirely of X-rated titles, you'd think they couldn't afford to do that. But guess they're between a rock and a hard place, give up on what generates most of your income or be cut off from the means to obtain any income at all :/
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idbeholdME: Because activist groups fabricate a perceived threat to their profit.
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Breja: I just can't wrap my head around anyone taking that seriously. I mean, everyone knows sex sells so when your whole business is people paying for stuff, just any stuff, what credible threat to your profit greater than losing the "porn money" could you imagine?

I guess I just can't think stupid enough for this.
It's well organized. And when payment processors get bombarded hard enough with pre-fabricated spam mails, important looking letters and petitions constantly complaining about it, making it seem like that's what the general public wants is not that difficult. Along with good old threats about what "might happen" if they refuse. When have I heard that before I wonder.... The vast majority remains silent, activists scream, that's what we get.

Anyway, here you go, if you haven't watched the video:
https://www.collectiveshout.org/

Feast your eyes. And it's not small fry either. Just a teeny tiiiiny little non-profit org with a humble 6.4 million USD budget and a grand total of 10 employees.
Post edited 2 hours ago by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: It's well organized. And when payment processors get bombarded hard enough with pre-fabricated spam mails, important looking letters and petitions constantly complaining about it, making it seem like that's what the general public wants is not that difficult. Along with good old threats about what "might happen" if they refuse. When have I heard that before I wonder.... The vast majority remains silent, activists scream, that's what we get.
If only that'd work just as well for the activists with better and more necessary goals... But they don't seem to be nearly as receptive to cutting off payments to, say, companies responsible for environmental destruction or unsafe working conditions or even modern slavery and child labor, or the typical whole package, rack in profits in wealthier countries while exploiting both the environment and workers in poorer ones and then hide away said profits in tax havens...
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Cavalary: If only that'd work just as well for the activists with better and more necessary goals... But they don't seem to be nearly as receptive to cutting off payments to, say, companies responsible for environmental destruction or unsafe working conditions or even modern slavery and child labor, or the typical whole package, rack in profits in wealthier countries while exploiting both the environment and workers in poorer ones and then hide away said profits in tax havens...
Because sexual stuff/porn is an easy target. Not many are going to speak in defense, lest they be perceived negatively. 90+% won't even care about this, but it's an easy way in.

Going against all the stuff you mention on the other hand is guaranteed to make an actual dent in their profits, which is why they won't touch it. And also miles more complex issues and not really comparable to this thing to be honest.
Post edited 1 hour ago by idbeholdME
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Syphon72: It seems to be about gradually guiding us into greater control by big government and corporations.
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reseme: yes that is exactly what they want.

I should be free to do commerce with whoever I want but now it depends of the whims of some politician or CEO.

Look at the US president, every day keeps deciding that no one can do commerce with a country or people, next day you can do commerce with them, and then the day after you can't again.

This is exactly why letting some random politician or CEO come up with the rules on the fly is a dangerous and bad idea.

Off course it doesn't mean you can't have governments not intervene if the commerce is dangerous for other people, but these interventions needs to be proven, based on clear laws and restricted to the people/companies that break the laws.

Not just: from today you can't buy games with big boobs anymore because we want to push and androgynous type of female that doesn't have boobs. Which I don't mind personally but having only that as an option is ridiculous.
Irony is that Trump endlessly screams about the virtues of free enterprise.
IMHO Conservatives have totally deserted their principals in exhange for power.
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Breja: So... what exactly is the angle here? I mean, what does Visa or Paypal or whoever care what you're paying for? Shouldn't they just want you to make as many transactions as possible? Why would they ever want something people need their services for to be removed?
Fear that a President who basically has a lot of religious wackos as a big part of his base will go after pay services who deal with Porn sites. That should be pretty obvious.
Post edited 44 minutes ago by dudalb