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So... what exactly is the angle here? I mean, what does Visa or Paypal or whoever care what you're paying for? Shouldn't they just want you to make as many transactions as possible? Why would they ever want something people need their services for to be removed?
It is absurd that banks&payment networks can decide what someone does with his own money. You can't buy that game because it has boobs but you can buy that other game where you play as a killer slaughtering people left and right all day long. You can't give money to this guy because he has other world views than the owners&CEOs of the banks. It is a mess, criminal and shameful. Pure kingpin mafia mob behavior.
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Breja: So... what exactly is the angle here? I mean, what does Visa or Paypal or whoever care what you're paying for? Shouldn't they just want you to make as many transactions as possible? Why would they ever want something people need their services for to be removed?
What’s the point of the angle? It seems to be about gradually guiding us into greater control by big government and corporations. I don't think you can purchase that item with the hard-earned money you’ve made. Instead, you will only buy what they deem acceptable.

That's what they want.

Also they will probably say it's for protecting underage children from exploitative material. That's the excuse.
Post edited 20 hours ago by Syphon72
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Syphon72: It seems to be about gradually guiding us into greater control by big government and corporations.
yes that is exactly what they want.

I should be free to do commerce with whoever I want but now it depends of the whims of some politician or CEO.

Look at the US president, every day keeps deciding that no one can do commerce with a country or people, next day you can do commerce with them, and then the day after you can't again.

This is exactly why letting some random politician or CEO come up with the rules on the fly is a dangerous and bad idea.

Off course it doesn't mean you can't have governments not intervene if the commerce is dangerous for other people, but these interventions needs to be proven, based on clear laws and restricted to the people/companies that break the laws.

Not just: from today you can't buy games with big boobs anymore because we want to push and androgynous type of female that doesn't have boobs. Which I don't mind personally but having only that as an option is ridiculous.
As if the games industry doesn't already have a mountain load of issues to contend with, as it is.
I'd be surprised if much was impacted, certainly at GOG. Probably just games that have rape and child abuse and so forth ... perhaps even games that are sexist and racist etc. But are any or many of those here anyway?
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Timboli: I'd be surprised if much was impacted, certainly at GOG. Probably just games that have rape and child abuse and so forth ... perhaps even games that are sexist and racist etc. But are any or many of those here anyway?
Who decides what's sexist or racist in a game? since nowadays anything seems to be labeled sexiest or racist. Metal Gear Solid games could actually fit those descriptions.
I noticed that Gog slowed the release of adult games significantly a while back, around the time the major payment processors started becoming uppity with adult sites. I thought at first Gog was becoming more prudish or that the adult games weren't selling but perhaps they're trying to avoid triggering the oligarchs. It's been annoying and I'm worried there will be a new Jack Thompson soon - it's not gonna stop at porn, it will spread to anything that those in power don't like.

The major payment processors need to be broken up, they have way too much influence and control.
And a million piece puzzle suddenly falls into a beautiful place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFvE-ze1U6g

Payment processors are just the tool. Now we know who weaponized it in this case. And yes, it's the usual suspects.

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The main question here is - why. Why do the payment processors submit. What leverage, if any, do groups like these have to always get their way with any idiotic ideological dumb shit they come up with?
Post edited 15 hours ago by idbeholdME
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Breja: So... what exactly is the angle here? I mean, what does Visa or Paypal or whoever care what you're paying for? Shouldn't they just want you to make as many transactions as possible? Why would they ever want something people need their services for to be removed?
This isn't economic, but religious. Specifically it's the less tolerant kind of Christians that push for suppression of sexuality and all kinds of vices, with the unstated goal of making everyone feel guilty all the time, making them easier to control.
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BanditKeith2: The worst part is that Visa and Mastercard basically has a stranglehold on the payment process and debit/credit card market with other methods not being that commonly accepted or listed as a means to payment so basically businesses .. especially small ones have to go with the whims of them as a result
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sqjzwpsr: Maybe in the US of A - in Europe it's likely more of a 50 50 or even a 40 60 ratio with alternative payment methods like PayPal being able to assert themselves.
PAYPAL is extremely anti porn. If they even get a whiff of your account being used to buy or pay for it, boom, it's gone, and with it any money you might have in it.

Fucking puritanical bullshit.
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Timboli: I'd be surprised if much was impacted, certainly at GOG. Probably just games that have rape and child abuse and so forth ... perhaps even games that are sexist and racist etc. But are any or many of those here anyway?
Fallout 3 can fit sexist, racist and even child abuse aswell.. Fallout New Vages same their and even more.. Fallout 4 can easily fall under racist for a specific side mission

Horizon Zero Dawn easily can fall into the child abuse category if one is inclined to view the early bit of the game and the cutscenes revealing backstory as such,Aswell as the whole game can fall into sexist territory do to modern day views from alot of those that speak on such things

The God of war game can fit into the label of Child abuse for how people so many seem to view what child abue is and also child endangerment

X-Blades can be labeled Sexist by modern standards of people ,

The Bloodrayne games same there aswell

Bioshock 2 Sexist and child abuse their aswell do to storylines matters, Bioshock infinite can fit modern day sexist standards many view sexism towards woman as .. not to forget the race based themes even if the ones doing the racist stuff are the bad guys

Tomb Raider games all have been labeled as sexist not just the old ones but the new ones aswell.. Same with the racist matter by many

Resident Evil games have been labeled as sexist by many do to how they have the female protaginist story and such as being

All the postal games quite abit of things they are labeled as

the Disney classics collection can be labeled as racist do to how people have labeled the games in them as racist in modern times

the Zombies ate my nieghbors and Ghoul patrol can be labeled as sexist for varies things in the game

Stubbs the Zombie can be labeled as sexist by modern standards

Destory all Humans say as above

Control that has been labeled as Sexist too by alot of people

Thats just naming some off the top of my head that shows it depends who is involved and by what metric they'd decide such things ..It'd be even worse if the situation involves AI I bet aswell.. Because of how some people go the extreme route .. I'd honestly have named more obvious older game examples even but I felt like best to bring up far more recent games even if some are remasters to show it's not just really old games people are tossing such labels on
Post edited 14 hours ago by BanditKeith2
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BanditKeith2: Snip

Thats just naming afew off the top of my head that shows it depends who is involved and by what metric they'd decide such things ..It'd be even worse if the situation involves AI I bet aswell
Exactly. This will not just stop. Especially if any sign of weakness is shown. The metric will keep ever shifting to encompass more and more things.

Reposting the vid from my previous post again for visibility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFvE-ze1U6g
Post edited 14 hours ago by idbeholdME
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BanditKeith2: Snip

Thats just naming afew off the top of my head that shows it depends who is involved and by what metric they'd decide such things ..It'd be even worse if the situation involves AI I bet aswell
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idbeholdME: Exactly. This will not just stop. Especially if any sign of weakness is shown. The metric will keep ever shifting to encompass more and more things.

Reposting the vid from my previous post again for visibility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFvE-ze1U6g
I'd try to find another person as many on here in the past has disreguarded that person as well many bad things and likely will do the same here.. Even if I can say he has missed the mark at times and went over the top at times I can't say any of the accusations and labels that person has had tossed at him is true at all from what I am aware oif(I haven't had a chance to watch the dudes content for awhile and haven't caught up with anything the dude is acused or labeled as for sometime .. )

But ya agreed on your piont at best we can hope for even though it'll be the oppside side of this corrent bad situation is the Pedalium swinging backwards from everything as it usually does .. But then we'd be in another bad situation honestly there just the opposite end of things
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UsernameTaken2: This isn't economic, but religious.
But why would Visa or Paypal care about that? If there's one thing you can usually rely on with these kind of corporations it's that they have no convictions either way other than profit. In D&D terms they would be Neutral Greedy.