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General discussionRelease: Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Definitive Edition(47 posts)(47 posts)
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Posted 16 hours ago
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Definitive Edition is the ultimate Dawn of War experience, featuring the original Dawn of War and all its expansions – and it’s now available on GOG!

All of Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War in one definitive package. Experience this genre-defining Warhammer 40,000 classic in all its blood-soaked glory, including four complete campaigns, nine full-fledged factions, and over 100 maps – all in one game.

Upon its release in 2004, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War quickly established itself as one of the all-time great real-time strategy games and a glorious celebration of Games Workshop’s storied far future of the 41st Millennium. The Definitive Edition celebrates this seminal Warhammer 40,000 title with updates that refine the experience for modern hardware and secure the game’s legacy for years to come.

Now on GOG!
Posted 9 hours ago
20 € for a game I already bought twice, first time on CD-ROM (with all expansions) and second time when it got added to GOG (with all expansions again)?

Sorry, you’re going to need a bit more than upscaled textures I won’t notice from my bird view anyway, or a "cinematic" camera that would only be useful for taking screenshots instead of actually playing the game. What I see here is not worth the asking price for people who already own the previous version of the game.

Even for other people, I would advise buying the original game for ~15 € rather than this revamped edition for ~30 €. A texture pack and some lightning effects should not cause the price to double.
Posted 7 hours ago
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wh1tepointer: Does this version have crossplay with the Steam version? Do they both connect to the same multiplayer servers?
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Lord_LANbart: Yes.

Info can be found in the FAQ Section in this Post:
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Well that's something, I guess.
Posted 6 hours ago
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WinterSnowfall: "Definitive Edition" and still no Tyranids. Come on, you guys! Coincidentally, there's a rather good mod that adds them - surely it could have been brought under the official game umbrella and spruced up a bit.
It's a remaster. They aren't adding content to the original game, especially not an entirely new faction that was never included. They are just improving what's already there.
Posted 3 hours ago
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Andrzejef: I know it doesn't to me, despite grabbing it in a bundle back in July. Apparently while the only version of the game available on the store was Anniversary Edition, the one bundled in the Warhammer40k Bundle (alongside SM2 and DoW2 which I owned since earlier still) wasn't Anniversary. It's very interesting. And about as discouraging from getting your games here.
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Lord_LANbart: Did a new Test. If I add the DoW Anniversary Edition to my cart it says I already own it and the price of the DoW Definitive Edition lowers too, as soon as I remove it the price is back to normal.
Huh. Indeed, support ticket it is then. Thanks.

Anyway, since the vetaran/owner discount and release discount are mutually exclusive, I can just easily wait until thye sort it out, with literally no reason to buy early.
Post edited 3 hours ago by Andrzejef
Posted 3 hours ago
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wh1tepointer: It's a remaster. They aren't adding content to the original game, especially not an entirely new faction that was never included. They are just improving what's already there.
Precisely my point. It's a wasted opportunity to actually add something of value, besides cosmetics, to justify the additional purchase.
Posted 3 hours ago
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wh1tepointer: It's a remaster. They aren't adding content to the original game, especially not an entirely new faction that was never included. They are just improving what's already there.
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WinterSnowfall: Precisely my point. It's a wasted opportunity to actually add something of value, besides cosmetics, to justify the additional purchase.
Also, age of empires 2 did (and still does) receive new content for the remastered version.
Posted 2 hours ago
Instabuy for me - this was one of my favorite RTS games at that time, and, in my opinion, it's one of the best RTS games ever made!
Posted 2 hours ago
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wh1tepointer: It's a remaster. They aren't adding content to the original game, especially not an entirely new faction that was never included. They are just improving what's already there.
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WinterSnowfall: Precisely my point. It's a wasted opportunity to actually add something of value, besides cosmetics, to justify the additional purchase.
It's a possible limitation of the engine. Back when the game was at its height of popularity, there were plenty of players begging for Relic to add the Tyranids to the game. Relic repeatedly responded to these requests saying that they couldn't do the Tyranids justice in the DOW engine. So it could just be a simple case of the technology preventing them from including the Tyranids in a way they and the fans would want. To include them now could require a substantial rewrite of 20+ year old code.

Mind you, when DoW II came out and included Tyranids, it didn't look like they were doing anything that couldn't have been done in the OG DOW's engine.
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Posted 2 hours ago
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WinterSnowfall: Precisely my point. It's a wasted opportunity to actually add something of value, besides cosmetics, to justify the additional purchase.
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wh1tepointer: It's a possible limitation of the engine. Back when the game was at its height of popularity, there were plenty of players begging for Relic to add the Tyranids to the game. Relic repeatedly responded to these requests saying that they couldn't do the Tyranids justice in the DOW engine. So it could just be a simple case of the technology preventing them from including the Tyranids in a way they and the fans would want.
Have you tried this mod: https://www.moddb.com/mods/tyranid-mod ? It's a pretty good representation of the Tyranids IMHO, barring their ability to absolutely swarm like mad, since it would create an obvious imbalance. "It's just not possible" isn't really the case, it has been done already.

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wh1tepointer: To include them now could require a substantial rewrite of 20+ year old code.
No, it would not.
Post edited 2 hours ago by WinterSnowfall
Posted 2 hours ago
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Mafwek: Alleged changes: improved camera; improved pathfinding; improved controls/actually usable hotkeys; rans in 64-bits so mods like Ultimate Apocalypse are playable now.
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idbeholdME: So the only gameplay change is pathfinding. What specifically changed? I assume AI pathfinding?
I don't know what actually changed, but you can move infantry blobs without causing greatest traffic jam and confusion among units which can only be resolved with help of the Emperor, Chaos Gods and RNGesus working together. Units can move through tight spaces and they can be actually microed. I am very impressed in that regard.
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vv221: 20 € for a game I already bought twice, first time on CD-ROM (with all expansions) and second time when it got added to GOG (with all expansions again)?

Sorry, you’re going to need a bit more than upscaled textures I won’t notice from my bird view anyway, or a "cinematic" camera that would only be useful for taking screenshots instead of actually playing the game. What I see here is not worth the asking price for people who already own the previous version of the game.

Even for other people, I would advise buying the original game for ~15 € rather than this revamped edition for ~30 €. A texture pack and some lightning effects should not cause the price to double.
You won't have a bird view from original edition without installing mods considering how DoW is extremely zoomed in.
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WinterSnowfall: Precisely my point. It's a wasted opportunity to actually add something of value, besides cosmetics, to justify the additional purchase.
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Andrzejef: Also, age of empires 2 did (and still does) receive new content for the remastered version.
Yeah, but majority of that content is not free, only thing which is free are balance patches.
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Posted 1 hour ago
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emperorsfist: Hello, I have all games in the DoW 1 series on GoG. GOTY, Winter Assault, Dark Crusade and Soulstorm. I, apparently, don't own the "Anniversary" version (which includes the exact same games) and so I' not elligible for the 30% discount. That's hardly fair - the Anniversary edition came after I bought all the DOW1 games here.
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Syphon72: It should apply at checkout if you have all the games on GOG. Nothing showing up for you ?
Many thanks! It shows up now!
Posted 1 hour ago
For these who has the old version, there is a 30% discount - - - at least here where I am, the price is therefore 19.99 €.
Posted 1 hour ago
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op15: For these who has the old version, there is a 30% discount - - - at least here where I am, the price is therefore 19.99 €.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/question_about_dawn_of_war_definitive_edition_30_discount
Posted 1 hour ago
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op15: For these who has the old version, there is a 30% discount - - - at least here where I am, the price is therefore 19.99 €.
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BreOl72: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/question_about_dawn_of_war_definitive_edition_30_discount
Thanks! Did not see that post/news. :)
Posted 1 hour ago
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wh1tepointer: It's a possible limitation of the engine. Back when the game was at its height of popularity, there were plenty of players begging for Relic to add the Tyranids to the game. Relic repeatedly responded to these requests saying that they couldn't do the Tyranids justice in the DOW engine. So it could just be a simple case of the technology preventing them from including the Tyranids in a way they and the fans would want.
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WinterSnowfall: Have you tried this mod: https://www.moddb.com/mods/tyranid-mod ? It's a pretty good representation of the Tyranids IMHO, barring their ability to absolutely swarm like mad, since it would create an obvious imbalance. "It's just not possible" isn't really the case, it has been done already.

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wh1tepointer: To include them now could require a substantial rewrite of 20+ year old code.
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WinterSnowfall: No, it would not.
I knew someone would bring up the mod, and while it's impressive, the ability to "swarm like mad" is kind of a requirement for Tyranids to be implemented properly and it wouldn't cause a balance concern if the race was balanced around that, much like zerg in Starcraft.

We don't really know what Relic's potential vision of a possible DOW Tyranids would have ideally looked like.

Having said that, with the improvements to the pathfinding amongst other stuff in this remaster, maybe Tyranids would have worked?
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